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Hello,

I have developed something a few years ago that I would like to do business with. I call it the Mind Portal and I believe it would make an excellent new product on the market. I suspect that its initial interest would be slow, but is would grow on an exponential curve and eventually generated huge returns. The time-span is stretched, we are not talking about instant returns, but long-term returns that dwarf the initial investments. I have my problems though, I don't know much about business. I have much to learn and I am hoping to get help here. First, I think it would be good to show the product and explain why I would want to see it on the marketplace.

The Mind Portal is a calendar, a map, and a set out grid. The design I am discussing for now is the initial prototype, I have already worked out over 30 variations. This calendar displays an entire year on a single canvas so that one can look at the patterns of activities recorded without turning the pages. It helps the mind to see certain connections quicker when viewing the over-all and not just the pieces of a project in question. There are a number of interesting things about this and how it can be used. I'll make a short list of some of its possible usages.

1.A dairy for tracking information about one's life, operating on symbols condensed into matrix codes that can store a larger amount of information into a smaller amount of space.
2.A dream map
3.A business map for keeping track up money and business
4.A birthday wheel for keeping track of the birthdays of friends and family
5.A grid for developing yantras to meditate on
6.A grid for working out modulated mathematics on
7.A tracking device to track, follow, and coordinate the development of a project
8.A typical calendar
9.A calendar for overlapping different patterns and finding connections between them
10. Making some adjustments to the grid space, I suspect we could record certian medical, seismic, or other important patterns into it to extrapolate new valuable information.
11.Language learning equipment
12.Auto-Suggestion device
13.Spinning Art or Poetry

It looks like I will have to post at least 50 times before I can show a picture or provide a link. Then I will jump ahead and explain why I want to put this in the market place!

I think it would help the development of our understanding tremendously. More people would encounter it and be able to ponder its value. It would get further developed, as products do, and advances in it applicable usages would grow vastly. First an initial amount of consumer interest would have to be accrued. This is only a matter of statistics. There are always going to be some people who show interest in this enough to explore it. It might be 1 in 1000, 1 in 10,000, or 1 in 100,000 initially. But those numbers will grow as more information is gathered about it.

The price would be reduced considerably for purchasing a full sized map, which is 3-feet in circumference typically when providing enough space to work with. At the moment it cost roughly between 4-10 US dollars if one goes to a print shop and prints out a calendar. I have released the PDF as a promotional so anyone who has encountered it and decided to experiment with it can do so, though they pay that price if they print out the full map.

If I went to an offset printing service I could get bulk prices, bring the cost down to 35 cents or less per a full sized map. It could then be sold for less then half the current market price and still yield over 300% profit. The more I spend on the service, the cheaper the product costs to produce.

So now I come to the point where I am wondering...is this the best approach? To save a couple thousand to produce several thousand calendars for a very low price. How will something like this be reacted to? I see things going very slow at first, but when someone sees this thing over and over again they think about it more and wonder about it more and finally start to take a much closer examination of it. Or, as I have been told and as I suspect, the person completely rejects the product. The words I heard "The consumers either love it or hate it". So how do I smooth public opinions out?

So many things to think about when I consider how to do business with this. Should I seek Investors? Should I rally the Government into helping build workable knowledge about the Mind Portal? Or seek out a private firm, make a proposal, and share the interest that gathers? Am I making mistakes as it is when I go on the forums and discuss my thoughts from different angles?

Also, aside from the calender there is another product that easily goes with it. The Wheel.
We would be reinventing the wheel all over again, only with new intentions. You see, the calendar and its information configurations are woven into an Attractor Grid, a spiral; and this information can be rotated very quickly to uncover new patterns of information. In order to do this one must have a wheel that they can place the calendar on. There are no wheels in the market for this purpose...its open. I have developed the rough plans for over 20 models that have separate features from one and other.

Not only is this a new kind of science, it is a new kind of market. I feel so much potential here for doing good business with this Mind Portal, I suspect it could stimulate the economy in many more ways then one. In order to build upon the values that are here, stimulating market demand can not be overlooked.

So, if anyone can help give me any advice about this I would be very grateful.
I wish I could show you the prototype products of the map and the wheel, but it will have to wait for now. If anyone is interested in finding out more, simply ask. I look forward to talking with you.

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It's interesting that you have come up with these things. Frankly I think this has a potential but the question would be how they would value it... Your intentions and visions are great but unless many could find use of it or find its true usefulness, you would find a hard time profiting from it. And if you try to profit from it too soon, less people would even try to risk trying your product even if how great your products are. This is just my own opinion so please don't be offended or anything..its just that I don't think people are into themselves that much because of all the world has to offer nowadays. Anyways why don't we listen to other comments on this. Thanks anyways for that info and hope you the best!
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Hi Jozen. Got to say the product does sound interesting, and it appears you could start a businees here at a low risk as the cost seems so low. however, be very careful! you need to market this product without placing it in the hands of a potential competitor. So firstly patent it or copyright it! if you have that much faith in the long run you need to legally patent it so no when will steal your idea. Do not do anything else until you have done this, don't show it to people, post PDF files on the internet, post it on forums or anything! Because right now i could take your idea and make a fortune for my self out of your work!

Once you've done that you need to start reviewing your product, getting some feed back. Take it to people who will use this product e.g. take it to small businesses and ask them to test it out using the whole calender, project management and other features. See what they say. Expect alot of negative feedback! don't be detered by this, look at why, may be its too complicated for them, maybe they just don't like it. Maybe they are narrow minded and dont have the time for new things like that. But keep trying! even if 1 in 10 000 like it, theres about 60 million people in britain, god knows how many in America!

take it to psychiatrists see what they say about all these grids and patterns for remembering things you say you have! See what they think. Maybe even people who do the star signs, se what they think of your dream maps etc. Take it round to peopels houses, ask them to try your product e.g. Mothers who may be very busy and see if the whole aspect of the birthday wheel helps them at all or not.

You may want to work on new designs that are smaller and only contain some of the aspects such as simply family orientated, or simply busiess orientated.

Once you've got the reviews, you need to get the product out there! write to magazines ask them to do reviews, or send them a simple bullet point review (like the one you posted on here) and see what they say, try local newspapers. There are many ways to advertise your product.

There are many more things you need and can do. If you need or want more advice, Private message me, and i'll see if i can help you out!
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Hi Jozen. Got to say the product does sound interesting, and it appears you could start a businees here at a low risk as the cost seems so low. however, be very careful! you need to market this product without placing it in the hands of a potential competitor. So firstly patent it or copyright it! if you have that much faith in the long run you need to legally patent it so no when will steal your idea. Do not do anything else until you have done this, don't show it to people, post PDF files on the internet, post it on forums or anything! Because right now i could take your idea and make a fortune for my self out of your work!
Sorry I have been so busy lately. Lost my job and had to get a new one quick, or else everything would of falling into a big set back. I got a better job now, and I am saving up! I need roughly 1,000 to get started, it shouldn't take too long! I already got those copyrights a long time ago, its officially on record that I am involved with this work, idea, product, and venture. I am not too concerned it competitors appear, as they could only help my overall aim in the long run, which is to get this knowledge out into the world where people can start putting it to practical appliance. All they could really do is help me! And that I am on record and began doing this when I did, if they are successful it would only bolster my prestige, and that is worth something if one knows how to manage it. If these competitors really took off, leaving me in the dust, I could still right books and make out, as my reputation would grew quickly.

I would of never started posting pictures of this on the internet without taking steps firsthand to secure my involvement with it. I have by now shown pictures on many different forums and I am giving the PDF file away for free because as others get involved with the experience of this experiment it will bring out valuable information and a base of observation that is easier to understand and absorb. It also promotes the idea.


The file includes a copy-right, so anyone can give the file away freely or print out as many full-sized copies as they want. However they can't sell it on the market. So, when I have enough saved to get prorated prices I can then release it on the market at a price much lower then that of a print shop's fee, which is 4-5 at best. By bringing the price down more and placing this where more people encounter it, it will be easier for them to find things to do with it. There are lots of products to develop, wheels and calendar designs, information formats, alphabet and language learning structures, meditation designs, there is a great potential for design developments!


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Once you've done that you need to start reviewing your product, getting some feed back. Take it to people who will use this product e.g. take it to small businesses and ask them to test it out using the whole calender, project management and other features. See what they say. Expect alot of negative feedback! don't be detered by this, look at why, may be its too complicated for them, maybe they just don't like it. Maybe they are narrow minded and dont have the time for new things like that. But keep trying! even if 1 in 10 000 like it, theres about 60 million people in britain, god knows how many in America!
I haven't had the time to take it to small businesses, but there are people who now have this are are currently investigating how to use it. I look forward to the feedback I get! I have been hearing a lot of different opinions about this, its a range to cover. Your right, even if 1 in 10,000 like it that adds up. These numbers are also prone to change as our understand of what this is grows.

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take it to psychiatrists see what they say about all these grids and patterns for remembering things you say you have! See what they think. Maybe even people who do the star signs, se what they think of your dream maps etc. Take it round to peopels houses, ask them to try your product e.g. Mothers who may be very busy and see if the whole aspect of the birthday wheel helps them at all or not.
I have already done that. They don't know what to think, none of them! They offer some advice, but beyond that they don't add any certain statements. People who work with star signs seem more apt to trying this. I find that going around the internet is faster then going from house to house, and I feel less imposing about it. Though I find your suggestions very helpful and feel that they will assist. Especially the bit about mother's and the birthday wheel. There are many ways to approach presenting this, I am somehow involved in this again and again, not always sticking to the same approach, but some that have gotten more fantastic then others.

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You may want to work on new designs that are smaller and only contain some of the aspects such as simply family orientated, or simply busiess orientated.
Great Idea! I will have the program to do this very soon!

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Once you've got the reviews, you need to get the product out there! write to magazines ask them to do reviews, or send them a simple bullet point review (like the one you posted on here) and see what they say, try local newspapers. There are many ways to advertise your product.
Awesome!!! THANKS!!! GOOD IDEAS...they have been noted and will help when the time to implement them comes! Soon I hope!

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There are many more things you need and can do. If you need or want more advice, Private message me, and i'll see if i can help you out!
Good luck
I will have to follow up on your offer!
Thanks!


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It's interesting that you have come up with these things. Frankly I think this has a potential but the question would be how they would value it... Your intentions and visions are great but unless many could find use of it or find its true usefulness, you would find a hard time profiting from it. And if you try to profit from it too soon, less people would even try to risk trying your product even if how great your products are. This is just my own opinion so please don't be offended or anything..its just that I don't think people are into themselves that much because of all the world has to offer nowadays. Anyways why don't we listen to other comments on this. Thanks anyways for that info and hope you the best!

Thank You DTactics!
I find you insight useful. It is a matter of public relations, which is not my specialty. I am doing what I can. I intend to investigate various means of finding uses, such as at the moment I am compiling 5 calendars with foreign alphabets, word structures, and beginner's grammar to investigate how much quicker one can learn new information with this. If the results are self-evident and quick then there are many who would want to use such a means to quickly learn all sorts of information, not just foreign languages. If I can manage to learn them quick enough, it might be helpful for doing business around the world in more ways then one!

I haven't made monetary profit yet. Its been over 3 years now. If I do profit from this, I intend to put those profits into further development so everyone profits from my profits! I agree that not too many people are into self observation to the extent that selling a means to do so would be profitable. It would need a lot of prepping, people would have to know what they could gain from doing such a thing, what they are missing out on. This will take time, and in the meantime I am going to be preparing materials that require very look work to use, and instead are ready to be used as they are, such as language wheels (first I've got to explore this more personally). I want to make gathering knowledge easier and faster for this world!

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It looks like a great idea.

Though i did not grasp the idea completely. I would love to give your product a try.

When is it going to be ready?
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hey Jozen Bo, glad my advise was useful in parts. it sure does look like uve covers the basics, well at least legally. one question, where abouts do u live, or at least where are u thinking of first marketing it? In England or another couuntry as obvioulsy i can help advise more specifically knowing where abouts u are as opposed to firing out random broad suggestions. Im glad u like the idea of the simpler more specifically aimed models.

Just wondering, have u used this product yourself? do you use it around your home for your work, your birthdays your family planning etc.? if you don't, start to, if you do why dont you try writing a few steps or a guide like a very mini and simplistic manual of how to use your minportal. this may make it easier for people to get to grips with your product. once they have got to grips popularity may increase and word of mouth will make others put in that little bit more effort to read the guide on using it.

when you test it take a sample of people and ask them to test and give feed back on one ore two aspects ONLY!! do this with other groups of people on other aspects. this way they are not overwhelmed by the whole thing and you may receive more specific feedback!

let me know how its all going!
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hey Jozen Bo, glad my advise was useful in parts. it sure does look like uve covers the basics, well at least legally. one question, where abouts do u live, or at least where are u thinking of first marketing it? In England or another couuntry as obvioulsy i can help advise more specifically knowing where abouts u are as opposed to firing out random broad suggestions. Im glad u like the idea of the simpler more specifically aimed models.
I am currently in Germany, though I was born and raised in Oregon USA. I have been considering to begin here, but it seems it would be easier in do so in a country where English is the first language. So, I am considering to begin in England and the USA. I have already written a manual in English, and even though I offer it up for free, it could still get a nice cover and be sold. I did an experiment with the manuals and placed them in a store and they sold out the first year, so this seems promising. I also wrote a large book about it, though this isn't offered anywhere, as I would like to publish it and see what I could do with it. So, to answer your first question, most likely England and America. I would, off course, expand if the possibility presents itself.



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Just wondering, have u used this product yourself? do you use it around your home for your work, your birthdays your family planning etc.? if you don't, start to, if you do why dont you try writing a few steps or a guide like a very mini and simplistic manual of how to use your minportal. this may make it easier for people to get to grips with your product. once they have got to grips popularity may increase and word of mouth will make others put in that little bit more effort to read the guide on using it.
Yes!!! I started with a blank calendar to keep track of my time, and found that by observing it with greater care I quickly started to become aware of many new things. It has been a rewarding experience. I have also been testing out the map as I place it on a wheel and spin it, to see how it affects the mind. I have found that it slows down your perception of time, a day seems and feels like a week. There are other interesting affects I have observed regarding the spin, it certainly is doing something.

I still need to put together a birthday calendar to keep track of my friends and family, its a chore to juggle time these days. There are some areas I am eager to test out, though it is hard to find the time when I work 55 hours a week, am married, and there always seems to be something that needs to be done.


I am carefully considering my circumstances as they are at the moment, it is very difficult to save, though it should be possible in perhaps October larger sums. I can either find an investor or a sponsor and sell shares, but I have no idea for how much, or I can save up on my own and try to produce and market it myself. Then there are no shares, but the ones that went into it. I don't mind sharing if it helps to get things moving faster, so I am going to have to review a proposal I have worked on.

My greatest advantage at this moment is communication, and considering who to contact with this. Not everyone will access it the same, responses will vary, which means sooner or later someone is likely to try to reach an agreement with me.



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when you test it take a sample of people and ask them to test and give feed back on one ore two aspects ONLY!! do this with other groups of people on other aspects. this way they are not overwhelmed by the whole thing and you may receive more specific feedback!
Thats a good idea. I am beginning to contact investors, marketers, and businesses to see if they are willing to take a risk...as they say, the bigger the risk the bigger the reward. I am also going to start contacting governments, as from what I have seen myself, I am convinced this should be further studied and the knowledge gathered put to use. It is a new science, there is a methodical approach that we can capitalize on...if we know how.


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let me know how its all going!
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At this moment, I am overworked and have little time. I am founding a company. As any company begins with an idea, so does this one. Its beginning is basically a gathering of like minded company. Its in its infantile stage, though efforts are being collaborated to build it up.

The difficulty here is my lack of experience, I am almost starting from scratch. But everyone has to start somewhere...eh? I have many plans, and I am certain I have the Willpower to implement them. When I consider for myself what I have experienced, I am now well aware of the potentials, possibly the most aware at this time.


The most interesting thing about this is that it goes in so many different directions all at once; the Mind Portal can be altered to focus on ANYTHING you can think of, its for the Mind. There are so many different ways to configure information, and well prepared images would be valuable, thus marketable. One of the keys to this is getting it thoroughly studied by many different professionals in their various fields to see if they can make anything out of it. Can it be used as a mathematics grid? What are the affects of spinning color codes and information patterns, and how do they very at different spin rates? I figure I can also send a proposal to one of each of the world's government presenting it and proposing to conduct a well sponsored research department to investigate the spinning part, as, thats the part about it that is the most curious.

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It looks like a great idea.

Though i did not grasp the idea completely. I would love to give your product a try.

When is it going to be ready?

The PDF is already ready. There are many information patterns to configure and I need to get a better computer to upgrade my graphics so I can do this without losing huge chunks of time, after all, this is to a huge extent about time saving. At best at this moment you could get a blank map (good for day tracking, planning, and dream mapping) and begin to experiment with it however you like, PM me if you want one. As to the information programs (such as a language learning program), I am unable to predict when they will be ready, but as soon as I am able to see a set time I will let you know.
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